Help to Decipher Code

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Help to Decipher Code

Postby Padre » Sun Jan 06, 2019 1:35 am

Hey Guys

When flying on either the TWC Mission Server or TWC Campaign Server, and I use the following sequence of keys, "TAB - 4 - 1", to call up enemy radar contacts, I'm presented with a series of stringed messages, that I'm having difficulty deciphering. Perhaps you chaps can help clarify them for me. Below is a couple examples of the stringed messages:

Example 1: 5F 40mi120° A7 205mph280° Intcpt: 135°5min
Example 2: 2U 9mi20° A2 198mph210° Intcpt: 4°1min

This is what I think some parts of those strings mean:

5 = quantity?
F or U = not sure!
40mi = how far away they are from my position
20° = the heading from my position
A7 = their altitude, in this case Angels 7000'
205mph = the speed they are traveling at
280° = the heading they are traveling at
Intcpt = intercept
4° = if I want to intercept I need to be on heading 004°
1min = how long it will take to intercept

Well that is about all I can make from that. If you can, please fill in the blanks. If I'm wrong on anything, please correct.

Thanks a bunch guys!
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Re: Help to Decipher Code

Postby TWC_Hoss » Sun Jan 06, 2019 5:02 am

Hello mate
Looks like you have deciphered it correctly. Everything you wrote is correct I believe. The only thing is F is for fighters B for bombers and U unknown. You are obviously far more intelligent than I am because its taken me nearly a year to work it all out.
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Re: Help to Decipher Code

Postby TWC_BlindAsABat » Sun Jan 06, 2019 9:40 am

Echoing Hoss, Padre. One thing to be aware of is that the radar system we have can and will reclassify raids at random intervals. For example a raid that is identified as 5B may a few minutes later be described as 5U and then later again as 5B once more. This we are told is a realistic representation of the Chain Home system. It isn't of course but it is what we have.
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Re: Help to Decipher Code

Postby Padre » Sun Jan 06, 2019 3:07 pm

Thanks guys, I truly appreciate your input. I kind of thought the F & U may be identifiers of the type of radar contact (F = fighter; U = unknown), but until today I never actually noticed a B in the any of the strings (B = bombers). I just discovered this radar a little while back but never really took the time to figure out what it was saying, but now that I have, it certainly helps dispel the "mystery" of where to go to find action :-)
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Re: Help to Decipher Code

Postby TWC_Dave » Sun Jan 06, 2019 5:36 pm

There were some excellent posts to the forum over the past two years
explaining and helping with the Tab 4-1. Unfortunately finding them again with search is not easy.

So to try and recap,

Take the quantity with a grain of salt, as the minimum is two, so one will post as two, & ten might be twelve etc...

I think FU was a joke by the coders, because a fighter/bomber like the Stuka could be F, U, or B...

Remember, anything under 250 feet is sketchy, and under 150 feet, invisible...

Most important is that if you actually believe the intercept vector, you will be on a wild goose chase.
If the Bogey is flying a straight line, then the intercept will be correct. But if he is flying a circle, the intercept
is only a snapshot of his course. Your best bet is to fly to the heading he is at rather than the intercept,
maybe plus/minus a few degrees, and hope for an update.
Not only that, courses and altitudes change all the time. And the Tab 4-1 report you just got is always a couple of minutes old.
(how long did you wait between your request and when you got it? a lot can happen at 250 MPH...)

Good Luck and Good Shooting!

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Re: Help to Decipher Code

Postby TWC_BlindAsABat » Mon Jan 07, 2019 9:34 am

Ground direction in the form of Stetson has the potential to make intercepts far more efficient. However, when it was crewed very few people used it and it has its own limitations most notably not being able to work out who is who on the friendly side without the pilots taking action to "register" with the controller. So it has fallen into disuse.

If you have a multi-monitor set-up you can get the radar plot up on a secondary monitor ( https://brenthugh.com/twc/radar/ ) and become your own ground director and that is a lot better than relying on "Tab 4-1". Beware though the radar plot sometimes gives different contacts to the Tab 4-1 method, contacts reported in one of them may or may not exist in the other.
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Re: Help to Decipher Code

Postby Padre » Mon Jan 07, 2019 2:39 pm

Thanks everyone for your input/insight :-)

While I realize the "TAB-4-1 radar call" has its limitations, and needs to be updated regularly, it is one more step in growing situational awareness. I'm simply thrilled to have discovered it; what an incredible feature for an already incredible game! For some of you younger fellows, who have grown up with SIM's having these abilities, and therefore consider them insignificant, for us who have been flying SIM's from way, way back, it's thrilling to see what we had once dreamed about, become a reality. I only wish I would have discovered this SIM back when it was "all-the-rage." For me, because I'm relatively new, it is all that and more :-)

Hope to see you all online some time. If you see me, please take a moment to say hi.
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